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Overcome SAP-ERP System Integrator Sales Tactics 2

May 16th, 2011
SAP or ERP system vendor sales scams or shams

ERP system vendor scams

This week we move into the live ERP or SAP sales process.  After your RFP and as you entertain all of those proposals this is where the sales games, scams, and shams really kick in.

As the process unfolds beware of the many tactics, schemes, tools, and tricks used by ERP system integrators to gain access to your checkbook. Like a magician with a bag of tricks and a potential million dollar deal or more (sometimes MUCH more) on the line, the show begins.  Software integrators load up on tricks, schemes, or other ways to separate you from your money.

As the SAP Sales Process Progresses

  • Beware of gifts not directly related to making a decisions
    • ERP or SAP sales people have large expense accounts
    • They are practiced at entertaining, influence, and manipulation
  • They often play “let’s change the subject” to divert your attention or distract you from what is important
    • They try to go very fast or distract you with something related but not what you asked for – you slow them down and use objective scoring protocols to counteract this.
    • Chalk talk – stop the “chalk talk” by asking “can you show me in the system” and if they cannot simply note that you will have to score them down on that item.
    • “Stump the chump” is a game they play by using techo–babble or just talking in terms that no one seems to understand but “sound” intelligent.  Simply ask them to “show me in the system” or “can you tell us all what part of the RFP are you addressing so we can be sure it is scored correctly?”
    • “Gee whiz isn’t that neat?” is a classic strategy to show you some unrelated but “cool” functionality to distract you from the key requirements you requested – Ask them “can you show me what section of the RFP you are addressing?” Tell them up front, in the RFP, to spell out in their presentation or demonstration exactly which RFP section they are addressing.
  • Things are not always what they appear to be – Videotape the sessions
    • Reports – Be sure the application has some built-in report functionality
    • 3rd Party “add-ins” (beware here)OS / Server / Hardware / DB will generally be required.  But other third party applications may not be mentioned by the vendor even though they are being used in demos.  Make sure it is clarified in the RFP and in the contract that the software is all-inclusive of what was demonstrated, or what was presented as “X” during the demonstration and it is videotaped.
    • “Vaporware” – You need on site, hands on time to evaluate the software. If they want the sale insist they provide you access to the software to put your hands on it yourself.
    • Custom screens or queries – Some vendors will do custom mock-ups to try to gain your business and then develop the REAL solution on your dime.  Think of these like facades, a pretty screen with no functionality attached.
  • Application “consultants” who participate in the proposals
    • Are product experts
    • May be compensated on a sale
  • Bait and switch
    • Consultants or their resumes may be presented during the proposal but suddenly have to “leave” the project or never show up
    • “In development” or “beta testing” usually means you will be paying to develop the product.

Strategies to Overcome Some of the Initial SAP System Integrator Sales Tactics

The following points were extracted from the post on Breakthrough Project Success: 2 of 4, IT Vendor Proposal RFP .

One of the most important things you can do is to develop a rational scoring protocol that addresses how well a vendor adhered to your RFP.  Score it section by section, and weighted to what is important for your company (a future post will address using the proven AHP method).

Make sure that the vendor provides live demonstrations of system functionality.  This helps ensure that the vendor brings knowledgeable consultants to the proposal — they will have to take time with some of their internal resources to be able to set up the demo and have some of their knowledgeable consultants available to show you system functionality and to answer questions.

Ensure that the vendor provides the implementation tools and samples of each of the templates and resources they use for the project.  Offer to sign an NDA to eliminate any of their arguments about “proprietary” information (see SAP Success Factors for Vender Selection – Responsibility Matrix 2, about 2/3rds of the way down the post is an RFI table).

If this is a vendor selection then the most important consideration are the consultants.  If it were my company I would tell the sales people to stay home and bring your proposed project team to do the proposal.  They are the ones that will deliver the solution, they are the ones that will be the greatest influence on your project success (or failure) and they are the ones that you will be paying for.  If you would like more information on this, please see the following posts:

Finally, make absolutely certain that any commitments made by the vendor during the presentation are documented or recorded, even if on video, so that they can be held accountable.  Be sure to work with your legal counsel to incorporate claims made by the ERP system integrator into the contract.  That contract MUST also contain penalties for breach.

In the end you owe it to yourself and to your company to protect your future and the company’s investment.  Invest the time and energy in this due diligence to help ensure that happens.

Stay tuned next week as we move “Deep into the sales cycle.”

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Overcome SAP-ERP System Integrator Sales Tactics 1

May 9th, 2011
Make the Right IT Decision

SAP-ERP Vendor Selection

ERP and SAP software integrators and their sales people are quite skilled at creating a “fog” around key selection criteria.  Because of the amount of money at stake and the potential for huge commissions many of them will do almost anything to “get a deal.”

For years SAP consultants have been frustrated by the messes software sales people make.  They promise anything, no matter how crazy or stupid, just to make a sale.  Then the consultants have to deliver what was promised.

One of the unfortunate necessities with these kinds of sales models is that often consulting managers, senior managers, or “engagement managers” work to  “reset” your expectations as soon as they land the project (see Scams, Shams, ERP System Integrator Tactics).  They systematically “walk back” the promises made by the sales people.  In the end you get little or nothing like what you were promised.  Sometimes this is the result of the deliberate and known sales “strategies” that are used by the ERP system integrators, sometimes it is an unfortunate result of an overzealous sales person who is willing to do anything to get you to sign a contract.

Let’s start this series by understanding who these sales people are.

Early in the ERP System Integrator Sales Cycle

It takes a special type of person to do well at high dollar, high stakes ERP software sales.  They generally tend to be very friendly, personable, and quite charming.  At the same time they are incredibly manipulative.  SOME of them (certainly not all) are convincing and skilled verbal manipulators who can look you straight in the eye and lie to you with a smile on their face and a firm hand shake.

  • Vendors sales people are trained to become your friend and to gain your trust.
  • Software Sales People are:
    • Highly Trained Professionals
    • Educated to know and expect your next move
  • Extremely Personable
    • Sincere appearance of being sympathetic to your needs.
  • Vendors are trained to find who says “Yes” (targeting key decision makers)

If you understand the “games ERP vendors play” as you go through this process you will be far more effective at not becoming a victim to their tactics.  As we will explore next week, as the sales cycle begins these SAP or ERP sales people use a number of techniques to distract you from what really matters in your RFI and RFP process.  One of the first places to begin overcoming many of the vendor sales tactics are related to the steps you take long before you ever entertain you first RFI.

SAP or ERP Software and Vendor Selection – First Things First (Governance and Control)

After you’ve decided to either replace your current systems, or at least investigate the possibility, it is important to set up governance and controls.  These types of mechanisms to review and to manage the process are critical.  Otherwise you may become little more than a speed-bump to sophisticated sales practices.  The more objective and structured your approach is the less likely you are to fall victim to some of the sales scams.  Some of the important things to do early in the process are:

  • Establish a Steering Committee
  • Define Near Term and Long Term Objectives
  • Determine interface requirements
    • Which system(s) do you want to replace
      • What are the license and maintenance cost considerations
    • Which systems will stay
    • Which systems may need to be modified because of the change
    • Which systems will need interfaces
  • Refine Scope with Complex or Exception Processes (see Using SAP Solution Composer for SAP Scope – Process Alignment)
  • Evaluate the need for “traditional” third party software (taxes, EDI, fax or e-mail integration, etc.)
  • Confirm software and hardware budget estimates
  • Select a Project Team and a Project Leader
    • Define Authority
    • Engage them in the scope and selection efforts
  • Create a Review Process

These initial steps are like the foundation for building a house.  If you do a good job with the foundation then the rest of the building has a good footing to start with.  If you take too many shortcuts, or if you measure incorrectly, you end up with a mess — your plans will be different than you originally expected to accommodate the foundation problems.

More Background on SAP or ERP RFI – RFP Processes

The initial efforts listed here will set the stage for your SAP or ERP RFI to your vendors, then the RFP from your short list vendors, and finally to your vendor selection and then management of your project.  If you decide to eventually develop a center of excellence then this initial foundation will become a key component of your marketplace competitive strategy.

For more background on SAP or ERP system integrator and vendor RFIs or RFPs, see the following posts:

Stay tuned next week as we look at the actual sales process.  We’ll review some of the classic tactics and strategies as you move deeper into the sales process.

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Tips to Overcome Sales Tactics by SAP-ERP System Integrators

May 2nd, 2011
Organization Change Management and Vendor Selection

SAP-ERP Vendor Selection

This is the beginning of a series reviewing some of the typical tactics and sales scams many software vendors use to gain your business.  Rather than competing on merit many vendors resort to various strategies or techniques designed to prevent you from gaining the critical insight you need to make the best possible decision.  Their strategies and tactics are designed to deflect you from discovering any of their weaknesses or even deceive you into believing they have qualifications that do not exist (see the previous post, Scams, Shams, ERP System Integrator Tactics).

You’ve Determined You Need an SAP or ERP System

You’ve done initial analysis and some internal due diligence and realize all those Excel spreadsheets, Access databases, home grown, patched together, and exploding data sets are everywhere.   The landscape of data sources resembles more of a third-world war zone rather than a well rehearsed symphony orchestra.

Senior management and the executives keep asking for information or reports that take days, or in some cases even weeks to cobble together from way too many sources.  The “answers” you get from the data never seems to be the same no matter how many times you redo it. It’s past time to look at SAP or another ERP application and the implementation vendor.

Now You Start the Selection Process

Even though using a structured business software vendor evaluation and selection methodology  may seem elementary there are still too many companies who do not follow one.  Some companies get overly complicated in how they select their vendors (using more of a software selection methodology) when what really matter are the consultants and the project team that is responsible to deliver the results.  One of the ERP critical success factors is to focus on what matters to you and your company’s project:

Often there are a lot of gaps for the selection process to be “gamed” or manipulated, or you fall prey to sales tactics that are designed to manipulate the person rather than dealing with the requirements.  When that happens the company making the investment suffers.  They suffer from poor results, serious cost overruns, blown time-lines, and damaging shock-waves to their company culture.  They are sold a chocolate pie only to find out the chocolate has been substituted for other brown stuff that might look like chocolate but stinks enough to make you puke.

Understanding the Stages of the Selection Process and How to Deal with Each Stage

The selection overview consists of a few steps that are not hard to understand but they can be tedious.  I have outlined them as follows:

  • First Things First (Governance and Control)
  • Early in the Sales Cycle – Software sales and System Integrators
  • Progress on the SAP or ERP Software and Vendor Selection
  • Deep Into the SAP or ERP Sales Cycle
  • ERP Software and Integration Vendor Tactics
  • Site Visit or Phone Visit to Verify ERP Vendor claims
  • The Finals

Over the next several weeks we will explore a series of posts based on each of these topics.  These topics are from part of a business software and vendor or system integrator selection methodology I’ve used in RFI and RFP consulting.  The approach I use addresses areas and solutions that very few (if any) of the RFI and RFP consultants ever address.  At the end of the day my goal is to see you make the best possible selection to propel your business forward.  And as a result of my passion to see businesses succeed with their large implementation projects I am making this information freely available.

Stay tuned next week for the first part of this detailed series.  We will look at “First Things First” in preparing for and initiating your software or implementation vendor selection.

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